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>> those are the ads ted kennedy used against mitt romney in 1994. specifically the folks from indiana, they had a whole series of ads like the ones for indiana, highlighting what mitt romney's bain capital did to the people who worked at the companies that romney and bain personally got rich off of. ted kennedy devastated mitt romney in 1994 in that senate race in those ads. so ted kennedy went back to the senate. mitt romney went back to bain. and he did a stint at the salt lake city olympics. when he decided he wanted to run again for public office, mr. romney man in 2002 for massachusetts governor. he ran against shannon o'brien. and shannon o'brien, no surprise, decided to run by upstating the same attacks that were so devastating against romney eight years earlier in the ted kennedy senate race. instead of the indiana paper mill that ted kennedy used in the ads against mr. romney in 1994, eight years later in 2002, shannon o'brien decided to use the gst steel mill experience against mr. romney. gfc still steel mill was a mill in operation since
>> those are the ads ted kennedy used against mitt romney in 1994. specifically the folks from indiana, they had a whole series of ads like the ones for indiana, highlighting what mitt romney's bain capital did to the people who worked at the companies that romney and bain personally got rich off of. ted kennedy devastated mitt romney in 1994 in that senate race in those ads. so ted kennedy went back to the senate. mitt romney went back to bain. and he did a stint at the salt lake city...
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romney even promised he was to the left of his opponent ted kennedy on the issue of gay rights in that election. despite that herculean ideological stretching, mr. romney lost the race badly to senator kennedy. it was not the culture war issues, the social issues that are credited with having made the difference in that election. the race didn't end up being much about health insurance or even whether or not mitt romney or ted kennedy were liberal or conservatives on abortion rights or gay rights or gun rights or anything like that. observers of the race say mitt romney lost that badly. look at that. he lost by 17 points to ted kennedy in that race more because of this issue. >> mitt romney's ads claim he created jobs, but what's the record? his firm bought a company and moved the headquarters to dallas. his firm bought a company called scm, fired all 350 workers. told some they could reapply at a 25% pay cut. many pregnant or older were
romney even promised he was to the left of his opponent ted kennedy on the issue of gay rights in that election. despite that herculean ideological stretching, mr. romney lost the race badly to senator kennedy. it was not the culture war issues, the social issues that are credited with having made the difference in that election. the race didn't end up being much about health insurance or even whether or not mitt romney or ted kennedy were liberal or conservatives on abortion rights or gay...
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ted kennedy had raised some of the same issues in the 1994 election. it worked for ted kennedy, but i think people were either giving him a pass or, you know, or what, i don't really know. but i don't think it was as effective, but i think now it's more effective for an audience, a national audience of people who really haven't seen that sort of set of values or hypocrisy, if you will. >> he seems to enjoy the formality of a debate, mitt. what do you think of telling the president you got to loosen this thing up a little bit. you got to be fast and loose in your debate style. if you get formal like him, very stiff like he does, he wins on that platform. >> the thing i've noticed, and i think, again, during my campaign and other places, i think he has a very tough time when he's unscripted. the times he's made most of his mistakes is when he goes off message and i think the more that president obama can actually have a conversation and get him to go off script and to engage him on a very personal level, i think that will, perhaps, benefit the president.
ted kennedy had raised some of the same issues in the 1994 election. it worked for ted kennedy, but i think people were either giving him a pass or, you know, or what, i don't really know. but i don't think it was as effective, but i think now it's more effective for an audience, a national audience of people who really haven't seen that sort of set of values or hypocrisy, if you will. >> he seems to enjoy the formality of a debate, mitt. what do you think of telling the president you got...
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the race didn't end up being much about health insurance or even whether or not plomds or ted kennedy were liberal or conservatives on abortion rights or gay rights or gun rights or anything like tla. observers of the race say mitt romney lost that badly. look at that. he lost by 17 points to ted
the race didn't end up being much about health insurance or even whether or not plomds or ted kennedy were liberal or conservatives on abortion rights or gay rights or gun rights or anything like tla. observers of the race say mitt romney lost that badly. look at that. he lost by 17 points to ted
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joining me now is democratic strategist bob shrum who ran ted kennedy's campaign against romney in 1994. bob, let me start with you. senator reid said he didn't know if this claim about romney's taxes was true. what's your take on the fact he was willing to put this into play at all? >> well, let me put this in context. romney is returning from the worst foreign trip of any presidential candidate since his father went to vietnam and came home and said he had been brainwashed. as i wrote in my column in the daily beast today he must have been sitting in that stadium saying, oh, to be in ohio now that the olympics are here. well, he's going to be back in ohio and will face these questions. and i think harry reid went out there and said what a lot of us are thinking and some of us have already said if you have been in a presidential campaign, you want to release those returns. you sit down and you look at them and the only reason you wouldn't release them is if there's something profoundly embarrassing in there. i think this is going to dog romney all the way through the fall. he's going t
joining me now is democratic strategist bob shrum who ran ted kennedy's campaign against romney in 1994. bob, let me start with you. senator reid said he didn't know if this claim about romney's taxes was true. what's your take on the fact he was willing to put this into play at all? >> well, let me put this in context. romney is returning from the worst foreign trip of any presidential candidate since his father went to vietnam and came home and said he had been brainwashed. as i wrote...
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returns and said ted kennedy should be the one releasing more tax returns as well. nonetheless, this is not the issue he wants to be talking right now which is the very reason his campaign have a conference call with us earlier today attacking the president for this crony capitalism as we were talking about as well. >> do you have any indication from them, you were on that conference call with them, you have been talking to them, any indication they are going to change their mind because of some republican pressure as well, and release any more of the tax returns? >> it doesn't sound like it. doesn't sound like they will release any more tax returns and a lot of prominent conservatives have said if you're not going to do it, you have to not do it at all but if you do it, do it now and get it over with. the conversation you heard there is it will be done in a couple of days. the question they have to answer for themselves is whether or not they know it would be done in a couple days and what could be found in those tax returns going forward. but what the conversation
returns and said ted kennedy should be the one releasing more tax returns as well. nonetheless, this is not the issue he wants to be talking right now which is the very reason his campaign have a conference call with us earlier today attacking the president for this crony capitalism as we were talking about as well. >> do you have any indication from them, you were on that conference call with them, you have been talking to them, any indication they are going to change their mind because...
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if it weren't for ted kennedy being a progressive in massachusetts, i've got to do that too! he is a me, too candidate. bill clinton was a success, i've got to be like bill clinton. this is a man without a rudder. he's got no compass. so whether or not he knows the fact, whether or not he has an ideological side to him is irrelevant, because he can be pushed any which way you like, and that's what conservatives, if you read between the lines, and sometimes they're saying it explicitly, that's what they like about him. all you've got to do is tell him it's the winning way and he'll print up your slogan. >> just for a comparison, i want to look at some video where we know he's actually telling the truth. this is from 1994 -- >> we had to go back to '94 to get a piece -- >> well, this is a piece where we know he's telling the truth and we can compare the way that guy talks about and the one pretending to be bill clinton. in 1994, he's talking about blind trusts. he's telling the truth. >> a blind trust is an age-old ruse, which is to say, you can always tell the blind trust what
if it weren't for ted kennedy being a progressive in massachusetts, i've got to do that too! he is a me, too candidate. bill clinton was a success, i've got to be like bill clinton. this is a man without a rudder. he's got no compass. so whether or not he knows the fact, whether or not he has an ideological side to him is irrelevant, because he can be pushed any which way you like, and that's what conservatives, if you read between the lines, and sometimes they're saying it explicitly, that's...
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. >> that was 1994 when he was running against ted kennedy calling blind trusts an age-old ruse. his quote. shortly after the national review interview went online the publication put out an editorial that read this way. release the returns. saying in part, romney is a politician running for the highest office in the land, and his current posture is probably unsustainable. and that wasn't all. former presidential candidate rick perry chiming in on romney's tax situation. >> i'm a big believer that no matter who you or are what office you're running for, you should be as transparent as you can be with your tax returns, and other aspects of your life so that people have the appropriate ability to judge your background and what have you. >> and then this from congressman ron paul, who is still technically a republican presidential candidate. he told politico, quote, in the scheme of things, politically, you know, it looks like releasing tax returns is what the people want. that's from ron paul. for a candidate who appears boxed in to the corner, romney came out swinging yesterday, k
. >> that was 1994 when he was running against ted kennedy calling blind trusts an age-old ruse. his quote. shortly after the national review interview went online the publication put out an editorial that read this way. release the returns. saying in part, romney is a politician running for the highest office in the land, and his current posture is probably unsustainable. and that wasn't all. former presidential candidate rick perry chiming in on romney's tax situation. >> i'm a...
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on abortion than ted kennedy. there's a pattern here. i thought it was smart to go. i don't think he was playing to get african-american votes. he's not going to get any. he was playing for the independent white suburbanites who don't like voting for someone who doesn't care about black people. >> right. >> and so i think it was smart to go. i didn't think it was a very good speech. i think the appearance was beneficial for him. >> bush figured out in 2000 and 2004, i think george w. bush in 2000, would -- early in the campaign it seems to me, i remember him going to one inner city stop after another inner city stop and we were all scratching our heads why are they doing it, they weren't doing it to win votes in the inner city, they were doing it to win votes in the philadelphia suburbs. >> because in the philadelphia suburbs they like a compassionate conservative which mitt romney has proved he's not this campaign. >> has he proven that? >> those primaries, i -- i think did it. but on the theory that 90% of life
on abortion than ted kennedy. there's a pattern here. i thought it was smart to go. i don't think he was playing to get african-american votes. he's not going to get any. he was playing for the independent white suburbanites who don't like voting for someone who doesn't care about black people. >> right. >> and so i think it was smart to go. i didn't think it was a very good speech. i think the appearance was beneficial for him. >> bush figured out in 2000 and 2004, i think...
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this is a man who called ted kennedy's blind trust the age old roos in 1994. have the laws about blind trust changed? >> no. it hasn't and his knowledge of not just his blind trust, but all of his other financial activities, david had a tremendous story last week about a waste disposal company that he was involved in that dealt with aborted fetuses. the list of his personal finances and the stories about it just goes on and on an on. i think david is is right. this is the last thing he wants to talk about, but the story keeps come back and as far as this point about social liberalism, he had a terrible, he thought he could win the debate on immigration. he lost that debate. he thought he could win the debate on health care and that didn't turn out so well. he is running away from this debate on taxes not just because of his personal financial situation, not just because the tax proposal that obama made would affect less than 3% of businesses, but because taxes in this country are at 15% of the economy. it's the lowest in 50 years, so he really has no place to
this is a man who called ted kennedy's blind trust the age old roos in 1994. have the laws about blind trust changed? >> no. it hasn't and his knowledge of not just his blind trust, but all of his other financial activities, david had a tremendous story last week about a waste disposal company that he was involved in that dealt with aborted fetuses. the list of his personal finances and the stories about it just goes on and on an on. i think david is is right. this is the last thing he...
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he did it with ted kennedy. rick santorum was right then and is right now. there's no one else with the baggage than mitt romney on this issue. he wants to get this swept off the front pages as soon as possible. i don't think the campaign anticipated that there would be conservative blowback to his interview. they probably thought when he went out there that that would settle the matter and it would move on. worried about handling from the get go. they said he looks like a flip-flopper and shouldn't have gone there in the first place. it goes to show he's -- if you get him on script, if you're talking about the economy he's in a good place. if you're talking about anything else, he finds it very difficult to deal with the narrative. >> yeah. the god father, i suppose. he's marlon brando to i suppose barack obama's michael corleon. just don't be fredo. i can do things too. romney was asked if his massachusetts health care penalty was also a tax. here's what he said. >> actually the chief justice made it clear that at the state level, states have the power to
he did it with ted kennedy. rick santorum was right then and is right now. there's no one else with the baggage than mitt romney on this issue. he wants to get this swept off the front pages as soon as possible. i don't think the campaign anticipated that there would be conservative blowback to his interview. they probably thought when he went out there that that would settle the matter and it would move on. worried about handling from the get go. they said he looks like a flip-flopper and...
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ted kennedy was very wealthy, but you never got the impression he didn't how people lived. with romney, you get the impression, not that he country care, he hasn't really been around people like that. >> is this a wind surfing moment? >> i don't think it's quite a wind surfing moment. i think it was worse for kerry than the jet-ski is for romney. it's only bad if it comes at a time when it reenforces a source of negative impression that may be forming. this isç the moment at which mt romney is being defined and i think this helps that definition for the romney campaign is not a good way. >> i think a jet-ski is much more every man. kenny powers has a jet-ski. hopefully, you don't know who he is. the rmer labor secretary robert reich had an interesting column. we've entered a guilded age in which mitt romney is a perfect e reflecti reflection. four years ago, we paid $12 million for his fourth home in la jolla, california, a pool, a jacuzzi and unobstructed views from the pacific. he has filed plans to tear it down and replace it with a home five times bigger. romney's a o
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joining me now is bob shrum, a democratic strategist who ran ted kennedy's campaign against mitt romney in 1994. and alicia menendez. thanks to you both for being here tonight. and before we start, i want to give a big shoutout to the actors and actresses from our friends at political subverseties. they perform every saturday here in new york. bob, let me start with you. this was so brazen. billionaires, the koch brothers. now, bob, you've run a lot of campaigns. how will this play? >> oh, it's not going to play well at all. look, it was a spectacle that goes to a point that i'm going to make in my column in "the daily beast" tomorrow. he's a candidate by the rich for the rich who's indifferent and insensitive to the middle class. you know the guy you quoted there who said -- or that the improv guys quoted that said obama's a socialist? he's a bozo who runs a restaurant in the hamptons called the american hotel. i've eaten there. it's way overpriced. food's gone down hill. he ought to pay a price for this. maybe the democrats who live out there should eat somewhere else and get a better
joining me now is bob shrum, a democratic strategist who ran ted kennedy's campaign against mitt romney in 1994. and alicia menendez. thanks to you both for being here tonight. and before we start, i want to give a big shoutout to the actors and actresses from our friends at political subverseties. they perform every saturday here in new york. bob, let me start with you. this was so brazen. billionaires, the koch brothers. now, bob, you've run a lot of campaigns. how will this play? >>...
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. >> the senator ted kennedy giving up his dream of running for president in 1980 after holding on until the last possible moment. in that speech, using his defeat to begin to create a new legacy. it's a classic example of making lemonade out of political lemons. and one state right now where the republican party has been given a bunch of lemons, they're not only making lemonade, they're refusing to acknowledge their lost and nobody is quite sure how to handle that. it's a weird situation, under the radar thus far, but i think it's about to blossom into a really big deal. we've got details ahead. i stepped on the machine, and it showed me the pressure points on my feet and exactly where i needed more support. then, i got my number. my tired, achy feet affected my whole life. until i found my number. i tried the free dr. scholl's foot mapping center. in two minutes, i got my foot map and custom number. i'm a 440. that matched up to the dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic inserts with the right support and cushioning i need. i am a believer. i'm a believer! i'm a believer. go to drscholls.com
. >> the senator ted kennedy giving up his dream of running for president in 1980 after holding on until the last possible moment. in that speech, using his defeat to begin to create a new legacy. it's a classic example of making lemonade out of political lemons. and one state right now where the republican party has been given a bunch of lemons, they're not only making lemonade, they're refusing to acknowledge their lost and nobody is quite sure how to handle that. it's a weird...
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ted kennedy was very wealthy, but you never got the impression that kennedy didn't understand how other people lived. and romney, you get the impression he doesn't understand. no that he doesn't care, i don't think he doesn't care. i just think he hasn't really been around people like that. >> is this a wind surfing moment? >> i don't think it's quite a wind surfing moment. i think it was worse for kerry than potentially the jet ski, this diseet innocent is for romney. it's only bad if it comes at a time when it reenforces a source of negative impression that may be forming. this is the moment at which mitt romney is being defined in the minds of many voters. and i think this helps that definition in what for the romney campaign is not a good way. >> i think a jet ski is much more every man. kenny powers has a jet ski. hopefully, you don't know who he is. robert rice had an article on romney's wealth. here's what he wrote. we've entered a guilded age in which mitt romney is a perfect reflection. romney looks and acts the part perfectly. four years ago he paid $12 million for his fourth
ted kennedy was very wealthy, but you never got the impression that kennedy didn't understand how other people lived. and romney, you get the impression he doesn't understand. no that he doesn't care, i don't think he doesn't care. i just think he hasn't really been around people like that. >> is this a wind surfing moment? >> i don't think it's quite a wind surfing moment. i think it was worse for kerry than potentially the jet ski, this diseet innocent is for romney. it's only bad...
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. >> that's what he said about blind trusts when he was running for senate against ted kennedy. how about a no offshore accounts rule? but there's more to his answer to the national review about what he keeps money stashes in offshore accounts. he was not relying exclusively on the excuse he once dismissed as a ruse. the so-called offshore account in the cayman islands is established by a u.s. firm to allow foreign investors to invest in u.s. enterprises and not be suggest to taxes outside of their own jurisdiction. okay, so this account of his in the caymans is the good kind of thing. a good kind of offshore account because it's designed to help foreign people invest in the u.s. and avoid paying u.s. taxes when they do it. great. so why is his money there? come on, are you foreign? quote, sometimes a foreign entity is formed to allow foreign investors to invest in the united states, which may will be the case with the entities that democrats are describing as foreign accounts. so his answer to this is what? that he's a foreign investor in the united states? his own explanation
. >> that's what he said about blind trusts when he was running for senate against ted kennedy. how about a no offshore accounts rule? but there's more to his answer to the national review about what he keeps money stashes in offshore accounts. he was not relying exclusively on the excuse he once dismissed as a ruse. the so-called offshore account in the cayman islands is established by a u.s. firm to allow foreign investors to invest in u.s. enterprises and not be suggest to taxes...
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now we're seeing this clip from 1994 when he was a senate candidate running against ted kennedy. he called it a blind rouse. >> the blind trust is an age-old rouse. you can tell the blind trust what it can and cannot do. >> should he be held to that? >> it is a difficult situation where you have words that can be used against you. i think this is probably one area that maybe romney does have to come forward and show there is full transparency. allowing this election to become a back and forth, guerella w warfare is what he has to get back to. he has to show people how everybody is successful in this country. not getting an argument about who is paying how much in taxes. >> i have to say that there is this perception about this campaign about how nasty it's become and the obama camp says the romney campaign has officially gone off the deep end. on the other hand, chris, john mccain, when he was responding to the controversy yesterday about his comments says basically we're going to gutter politics. they, the obama camp, should be ashamed. is there a risk in this? >> there is a ris
now we're seeing this clip from 1994 when he was a senate candidate running against ted kennedy. he called it a blind rouse. >> the blind trust is an age-old rouse. you can tell the blind trust what it can and cannot do. >> should he be held to that? >> it is a difficult situation where you have words that can be used against you. i think this is probably one area that maybe romney does have to come forward and show there is full transparency. allowing this election to become...
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something similar to what he had done when he went to run against is that right ted kennedy in a previous position. he decided since he was going to hopefully return to bain capital, he said i'm not going to return to my part time or full time status. instead, i'm going to retroactively elect to not come back. this is really a slight of hand the president and his campaign are running as if governor romney were show in charge of bain. "the boston globe" who wrote a book on governor romney said he left in february 1999, i think this is more of a political statement. >> the slight of hand is not obama's, but it is romney's because if you retire, you retire. you put the date out there. you cease to be paid, but when you retroactively retire, that means you extend beyond the date and you, you've got some gray area here. don't you understand why the rest of us find that a bit fudging of the facts? >> governor romney was the one shareholder as we know, but of course, he did not have any obligation obviously of running the company. that's a huge distinction. your name may not be on the filings as
something similar to what he had done when he went to run against is that right ted kennedy in a previous position. he decided since he was going to hopefully return to bain capital, he said i'm not going to return to my part time or full time status. instead, i'm going to retroactively elect to not come back. this is really a slight of hand the president and his campaign are running as if governor romney were show in charge of bain. "the boston globe" who wrote a book on governor...
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. >> an it's such a tragedy because those great figures, lbj, ted kennedy, were able to afford a bipartisan consensus cht you also mentioned they are now 43 freshman senators. that's the most since watergate, but don't you think this group if given enough time, can ma chur into the kind of leaders that we used to see in the upper chamber or am i just tripping here on a thursday afternoon? >> i would like to agree that it's possible and theoretically, it's possible. it just doesn't seem to be happening. take a guy like mark warner, democrat from virginia. he might have that potential. he's sick of the place. basically, even if somebody wants to be that, the primary voters are going to kick him out at home and there's so much disgust with what's going on here in washington, people are not reupping like they did before or a guy like dick lugar tries to reup and he's kicked out and the list goes on. >> thank you, my friend. >> thanks. >>> we'll be right back. >> i appreciate the chance to speak first. i just hope the obama campaign doesn't hope you're playing favorites. >> there's a lot more to
. >> an it's such a tragedy because those great figures, lbj, ted kennedy, were able to afford a bipartisan consensus cht you also mentioned they are now 43 freshman senators. that's the most since watergate, but don't you think this group if given enough time, can ma chur into the kind of leaders that we used to see in the upper chamber or am i just tripping here on a thursday afternoon? >> i would like to agree that it's possible and theoretically, it's possible. it just doesn't...
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it's like the bain story, which he was first attacked on bain in 1994 in the race with ted kennedy, didn't have the answers then, still doesn't have them. the ann romney thing is fascinating. first of all, it's a step up, at least he's putting ann romney out in front. he was earlier in the week hiding behind theresa heinz cary. you may recall he was not being held to the same standard she was when she was not running for president in 2004. but also, just what she said now, she said he's a good man, he gives 10% of his income or whatever -- zero, maybe of zero, but whatever to the church. didn't mention theame of the church, which is the moore mom church. the mormon church, that's just in one snippet. they keep making it worst. they have no answers, and they look bad, and it's also a metaphor, i think, or become a approximaty for all the secrecy about romney, about bain, about his governorship of massachusetts where the hard drives roll a race, his staff was leaving. >> they bought them and took them with them. >> they could afford to buy them. all those sort of language they use, like in 2
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that was the late, great senator ted kennedy fighting for an increase in the minimum wage five years ago. the battle was won in 2009. it was increased from $5.25 an hour to $7.25 an hour. now there's a new fight. $7.25 an hour can't support our families. do the math. for a year in the minimum wage amounts to only $15,000 a year. that's almost $8,000 below the federal poverty line for a family of four. workers in america desperately need a raise in the struggling economy. people who work hard should be able to live off their wages and support their families. republicans are generally opposed to raising the minimum wage. take a look at what mitt romney said recently. >> certainly, the level of inflation is something you should look at and you should identify what's the right way to keep americans -- >> minimal inflation so far. >> right now, there's probably not a need to raise the minimum wage. >> there you have it, a tremendous difference between the way the republicans and the democrats look at fairness. the republican unwillingness to help working men and women rains through our so
that was the late, great senator ted kennedy fighting for an increase in the minimum wage five years ago. the battle was won in 2009. it was increased from $5.25 an hour to $7.25 an hour. now there's a new fight. $7.25 an hour can't support our families. do the math. for a year in the minimum wage amounts to only $15,000 a year. that's almost $8,000 below the federal poverty line for a family of four. workers in america desperately need a raise in the struggling economy. people who work hard...
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and he showed in a bipartisan way with ted kennedy that he could do this. and six years later, because obama became president, we can learn from that, and now it's suddenly poison in the republican party. >> steve kornacki and krystal ball, you can see them every day. what is that, 3:00 p.m.? >> 3:00 p.m., 12:00 on the west coast. >> "the cycle." >> but you don't use any of the material that you use on this show. >> nothing -- >> you come on here, it's all fresh. >> every show's a new one. >> no one heard anything like that this afternoon? >> of course not. >> thank you very much for joining me tonight. >>> coming up, a shocking new report by david corn at mother jones that says that mitt romney was an abortion profiteer. >>> and remember that 14-year-old kid who wowed conservatives at the cpac conference a few years ago? well, he's getting ready to go to college and he's not a conservative anymore. jonathan krome gets tonight's last word. in coffee shops. people who have been out of work. you can tell it wears on them. narrator: he's fought to pull us out
and he showed in a bipartisan way with ted kennedy that he could do this. and six years later, because obama became president, we can learn from that, and now it's suddenly poison in the republican party. >> steve kornacki and krystal ball, you can see them every day. what is that, 3:00 p.m.? >> 3:00 p.m., 12:00 on the west coast. >> "the cycle." >> but you don't use any of the material that you use on this show. >> nothing -- >> you come on here,...
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the hatch that was able to reach across the aisle and work with ted kennedy and pass the children's health insurance program and other things like that. come on, folks. this is what we need. >> i wonder how many "i told you sos" on the right, in the tea party movement. >> tax reform will probably involve tax increases, which i'm sure the tea party challenger would not have been for. >> what's interesting, i haven't had a republican senator, when you ask them that direct question, can you say that taxes are not going to go up on somebody, they won't say that. it's pretty clear taxes are going to go up on somebody. >> i think it has to. look, at some point, the ryan proposal has to -- if we're actually going to reduce the debt, which is the problem, there has to be some compromise on taxes. where and how, i don't know, but this election has to happen. >> ruth, really quickly, what'd you make of sort of what appears to be a change in tone in the president's ads? >> you know, i'm actually not surprised by it. i wrote a column eight months ago about how this campaign was not going to be about h
the hatch that was able to reach across the aisle and work with ted kennedy and pass the children's health insurance program and other things like that. come on, folks. this is what we need. >> i wonder how many "i told you sos" on the right, in the tea party movement. >> tax reform will probably involve tax increases, which i'm sure the tea party challenger would not have been for. >> what's interesting, i haven't had a republican senator, when you ask them that...
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ted kennedy said no. but the point is, and chuck's points are good ones, i think when you look at the polling, chuck is making it sound like this needs to be another hail mary pass. it doesn't. this thing is neck and neck. it's likely to stay neck and neck all the way to the first week of november. and i don't think that the romney campaign needs to have a surprise pick. i think they need to pick somebody who can further the overall campaign theme of competence and somebody like portman does that. when you get elected, you need confidence. >> romney needs to change the message. >> if you look at the polls, if you look at the national polls or state polls, all of this stuff that you and i talk about 15 times a day doesn't appear to be happening or it doesn't appear to have allowed the president to get any separation from romney. >> chuck, does it matter when he makes this announcement? >> as soon as he can take this bain story off the front page, the better it is for mitt romney. i talked to voters in batt
ted kennedy said no. but the point is, and chuck's points are good ones, i think when you look at the polling, chuck is making it sound like this needs to be another hail mary pass. it doesn't. this thing is neck and neck. it's likely to stay neck and neck all the way to the first week of november. and i don't think that the romney campaign needs to have a surprise pick. i think they need to pick somebody who can further the overall campaign theme of competence and somebody like portman does...
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. >> senator ted kennedy giving up his dream of running for president in 1980 after holding on until the last possible moment. in that speech, using his defeat to begin to create a new legacy. it is a classic example of making lemonade out of political lemons. and one state right now though where the republican party has been given a whole bunch of lemons, they're not only making lemonade, they are refusing to acknowledge that they lost. and nobody is quite sure how to handle that. it is a very weird situation pretty much under the radar thus far but i think it is about to blossom into a really big deal. we've got details ahead. [ groans ] [ marge ] psst. constipated? phillips' caplets use magnesium, an ingredient that works more naturally with your colon than stimulant laxatives, for effective relief of constipation without cramps. thanks. good morning, students. today we're gonna continue... >>> this year, the democrats are holding their convention charlotte, north carolina. which is a drag for lots of democrats since democrats tend to support union rights and there is not a single
. >> senator ted kennedy giving up his dream of running for president in 1980 after holding on until the last possible moment. in that speech, using his defeat to begin to create a new legacy. it is a classic example of making lemonade out of political lemons. and one state right now though where the republican party has been given a whole bunch of lemons, they're not only making lemonade, they are refusing to acknowledge that they lost. and nobody is quite sure how to handle that. it is...
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senate against ted kennedy. democrats have made the attacks. there were attacks made by republicans in 2008 and of course by republicans in 2012, and now we're going around that again. >> steve, should he release the 23 years of tax returns that he handed over to the mccain campaign? >> look, i think one of the things that he's clearly thinking through, lawrence, is that when you are in a disclosure fight and you are forceded to change your position and to disclose something you didn't want to disclose, there's nobody standing there cheering for you saying, great job, attaboy, you know, that was the right, good thing to do. you know, what there is is there's more outrage, there's more calls for disclosure, and i think they've made the political calculus, their going to dig in here and they're going to try to pivot off of this and get back on to the president's economic record. but, you know, pretty clearly, the campaign has been steadfast that the public is not going to see more than two years' of tax returns. it will be very interesting to see
senate against ted kennedy. democrats have made the attacks. there were attacks made by republicans in 2008 and of course by republicans in 2012, and now we're going around that again. >> steve, should he release the 23 years of tax returns that he handed over to the mccain campaign? >> look, i think one of the things that he's clearly thinking through, lawrence, is that when you are in a disclosure fight and you are forceded to change your position and to disclose something you...
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. >> the senator ted kennedy giving up his dream of running for president in 1980 after holding on until the last possible moment. in that speech, using his defeat to begin to create a new legacy. it's a classic example of making lemonade out of political lem lemons. and one state right now where the republican party has been given a bunch of rlemons, they'e not only making lemonade, they're refusing to acknowledge their lost and nobody is quite sure how to handle that. it's a weird situation, under the radar thus far, but i think it's about to blossom into a really big deal. we've got details ahead. ♪ hello...rings ♪ what the... what the... what the... ♪ are you seein' this? ♪ ♪ uh-huh... uh-huh... uh-huh... ♪ ♪ it kinda makes me miss the days when we ♪ ♪ used to rock the microphone ♪ back when our credit score couldn't get us a micro-loan ♪ ♪ so light it up! ♪ even better than we did before ♪ ♪ yeah prep yourself america we're back for more ♪ ♪ our look is slacker chic and our sound is hardcore ♪ ♪ and we're here to drop a rhyme about free-credit-s
. >> the senator ted kennedy giving up his dream of running for president in 1980 after holding on until the last possible moment. in that speech, using his defeat to begin to create a new legacy. it's a classic example of making lemonade out of political lem lemons. and one state right now where the republican party has been given a bunch of rlemons, they'e not only making lemonade, they're refusing to acknowledge their lost and nobody is quite sure how to handle that. it's a weird...
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i had the greatest time that morning, had breakfast with orrin hatch and ted kennedy. i met so many other people politically. i don't agree with whatever. politics is all about having a different idea on one side than the other. >> you're so honest in the book and so revealing. how difficult was it to write about your addictions? >> it was very -- it was very -- it was a release. i mean, i wrote about it in treatment. i had to write everything down. for the general public to read it, people said you're hard on yourself but i wasn't hard on myself in the book. i was just telling the truth. addiction is a horrible thing. it's really the most disgusting thing. the greatest thing that happened to me when i went to rehab was that when i first went to group session, and people talked about their addiction, i went oh, my god, you did that as well? the amount of shame i felt through what i did when i went to rehab, i wasn't ashamed of being a drug addict so much as i was more ashamed that i couldn't work a washing machine or make myself a piece of toast. i had become obsolete
i had the greatest time that morning, had breakfast with orrin hatch and ted kennedy. i met so many other people politically. i don't agree with whatever. politics is all about having a different idea on one side than the other. >> you're so honest in the book and so revealing. how difficult was it to write about your addictions? >> it was very -- it was very -- it was a release. i mean, i wrote about it in treatment. i had to write everything down. for the general public to read...
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back in 1994 his own standard when he was running against ted kennedy was the following. here was the head line from the boston globe, romney chides kennedy on taxes. mitt romney yesterday challenged kennedy to disclose the state and federal taxes to prove he has nothing to hide. romney said he would disclose his own state and federal taxes for the last three years on the very day that kennedy turns over his taxes for public scrutiny. this is hardly new to mr. romney to make taxes an issue. he did it against kennedy. and even when he was running for the senate he was willing to release three years. but now he's running for presidency he says two and nothing more. >> well, again, it's the standard for the last republican nominee, the last democratic nominee, and the real issue here, david, is what are we going to do to make it where more americans are filing their income taxes because they have a job? under this president the household income has gone down $4,300 since he took office. we have a record 41st month of unemployment rates above 8% under this president as a resu
back in 1994 his own standard when he was running against ted kennedy was the following. here was the head line from the boston globe, romney chides kennedy on taxes. mitt romney yesterday challenged kennedy to disclose the state and federal taxes to prove he has nothing to hide. romney said he would disclose his own state and federal taxes for the last three years on the very day that kennedy turns over his taxes for public scrutiny. this is hardly new to mr. romney to make taxes an issue. he...
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. >> ted kennedy/orrin hatch. >> ted kennedy/orrin hatch. >> in one second. i want to ask you, what does sandy weill think breaking up the big banks? >> he's not on the dream team. >> is he mad at jamie dimon for some reason? >> that goes way back. his daughter was there and jamie went and got jpmorgan and made it into a colossus and then sandy didn't set up his success well to chuck prince. sandy was the architect of this bank and now he's talking about breaking them all up. he was the one that put it altogether. hypocritical? right. >> yes, it is. >> maybe. >> mistakes were made. >> yes, they were there. >> mistakes were made. so fortune magazine's executive dream team, what are we looking at here? >> a little fun -- >> little bit. >> little bit here in the summertime. it does, again, speak to leadership and, you know, i want to talk about some of the top people. let's start at the very top with the ceo, our ceo pick, which is someone who's overlooked which is jeff bezos of amazon, overshadowed by steve jobs, you were talking about steve jobs and what a gre
. >> ted kennedy/orrin hatch. >> ted kennedy/orrin hatch. >> in one second. i want to ask you, what does sandy weill think breaking up the big banks? >> he's not on the dream team. >> is he mad at jamie dimon for some reason? >> that goes way back. his daughter was there and jamie went and got jpmorgan and made it into a colossus and then sandy didn't set up his success well to chuck prince. sandy was the architect of this bank and now he's talking about...
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if this were ted kennedy running against carter they would always take the more aggressive position. it's a smart move at home. he said in terms of the old fight of moving the embassy to jerusalem, he didn't really make that push for that. he took it very carefully saying it depends on what the israeli government would like. that's a dodge. it's not the israeli government. it's about how much trouble it would cause in the region, but the other question is i think he didn't say we're going to attack. he said we're going to respect their decision if they do take it. i felt he modified a bit once he got over there. >> richard hoss, is it that different from what an obama administration, what the president of the united states would have said yesterday? >> no. if you look at obama's aipac speech, he was tough. he ruled ott containment of iran and said we're going to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon but some of the specifics in the language was a little different. obama has not left them a lot of room because obama has shifted on this issue and it's pretty tough. the sanctions a
if this were ted kennedy running against carter they would always take the more aggressive position. it's a smart move at home. he said in terms of the old fight of moving the embassy to jerusalem, he didn't really make that push for that. he took it very carefully saying it depends on what the israeli government would like. that's a dodge. it's not the israeli government. it's about how much trouble it would cause in the region, but the other question is i think he didn't say we're going to...
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kennedy in '94. >> the blind trust is an age-old ruse, which is to say, you can always tell the blind trust what it can and cannot do. you give a blind trust rules. >> so, back then, when he didn't have a blind trust, he thought they were ruses. age-old ruses. and now he's using that age-old ruse. am i like at the top of the show when we accuse mitt romney of taking the context of what the president was saying and manipulating it? am i manipulating anything here? >> look, he -- candidates make comments all the time, five, ten, 15, 20 years ago and have to come back and explain. interesting to hear how he explains this. as someone who runs for office you make comments -- >> this seems like a big businessman who makes a lot of money who likes to manipulate comments. >> the country is built and based and predicated as what you've said this morning, i think the question here is, people are curious and our questions are, if you run for public office you have to expose yourself. rick perry and republicans and democrats have said. i don't have an issue with that. if he decides, mitt romney,
kennedy in '94. >> the blind trust is an age-old ruse, which is to say, you can always tell the blind trust what it can and cannot do. you give a blind trust rules. >> so, back then, when he didn't have a blind trust, he thought they were ruses. age-old ruses. and now he's using that age-old ruse. am i like at the top of the show when we accuse mitt romney of taking the context of what the president was saying and manipulating it? am i manipulating anything here? >> look, he...